Molly Medvecky is a longtime administrative professional with experience supporting c-suite executives. She’s also a former Chief of Staff and MBA graduate, and currently a certified Enneagram Coach.
In this episode of The Leader Assistant Podcast, Molly talks about what inspired her to create an Enneagram program for assistants, what the Enneagram is, and how it’s different from other assessments.
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ABOUT MOLLY
ABOUT MOLLYMolly Medvecky brings twenty+ years of seasoned administrative leadership spanning eight industries, from finance and healthcare to technology, retail, marketing, consulting, nonprofit, and education. Throughout her career, she has been the go-to partner for C-suite executives, navigating high-velocity environments with a blend of strategic foresight and operational rigor. As a former Chief of Staff and MBA graduate, she has architected and executed cross-functional initiatives that streamline processes, elevate team performance, and embed a culture of accountability, all underpinned by her servant-leadership ethos.
Today, as a certified Enneagram Coach, Molly channels that deep expertise into EA Enneagram: Where EQ Meets IQ, a coaching curriculum designed by an Executive Assistant for fellow Administrators. The program empowers administrative professionals to harness Enneagram insights, improving communication, sharpening decision-making, and fostering workplace harmony.
When she is not guiding EAs toward greater self-awareness and impact, you will find Molly on the volleyball court coaching a 3rd grade girls team, chasing pickleball dreams alongside friends, or corralling her trio of wild Boston terriers on the family homestead in East Texas.
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Molly Medvecky 0:00
Hi. This is Molly, and the leadership quote today is – the world is changed by your example, not by your opinion. Paulo Coelho,
Podcast Intro 0:15
The Leader Assistant Podcast exists to encourage and challenge assistants to become confident game changing leader assistants.
Jeremy Burrows 0:33
Hey friends, welcome to The Leader Assistant Podcast. It’s your host, Jeremy Burrows, and this is episode 346. You can check out the show notes at leaderassistant.com/346. Today, I’m super excited to be speaking with my friend Molly Medvecky. Molly is a long time executive assistant slash Administrative Professional slash awesome person with experience supporting C suite executives and Molly, we got a lot to talk about, but first of all, welcome to the show and tell everyone what city you’re in.
Molly Medvecky 1:12
Well, first of all, thank you for having me. I’m super excited to be here known each other a while, and I am currently in East Texas, a very small town called pain springs.
Jeremy Burrows 1:22
Pain springs, nice. That’s, I’m guessing it’s kind of hot down there right now.
Molly Medvecky 1:28
It is. I’m checking in at about 98 right now, 1,000% humidity. It’s a really small town. It’s about 780 people, so it’s very remote.
Jeremy Burrows 1:39
Gotcha, gotcha. And what’s your favorite thing to do in town when you’re not working?
Molly Medvecky 1:44
Well, we don’t really have a town, but per se, in my leisure time, I’ve been coaching girls third and fourth grade volleyball. I’ve been trying to go on the pickle ball circuit, but nobody will have me, and I’m just kind of obsessed with our three Boston interiors. And we do have a little bit of a homestead here that we’re building out. So we’ve never done this before, and so it’s just always an adventure, chickens, pigs, gardens and things so well, little bit of everything
Jeremy Burrows 2:16
nice. So like watching a lot of YouTube videos on how to build a chicken coop and all that
Molly Medvecky 2:22
100% all day long. Nice. Love
Jeremy Burrows 2:25
it. Well, Molly, tell us a little bit about your career. First of all, you, you know, you’ve had a long career as being an assistant. We met when you were the, I think we met when you were the EA to the CEO of chewy. Is
Molly Medvecky 2:40
that right in 2020 it was the height of the pandemic, and I had a teeny budget at chewy, just enough to buy a group of very siloed, frustrated EAS the book. And then you came in and you coached us through it, the material virtually that summer. And it was, it was very important at that time, because the team was so just what is going on and very, very fast paced environment. So your book really gave us, like time to gather in a common language that was really important at the time. Like, I don’t know if that team would have survived without having you kind of be our third party anchor, which is really awesome. So I don’t think I’ve ever said that to you. So thank you for that, for sure.
Jeremy Burrows 3:27
Thank you appreciate it, and you’re welcome. And you know that was for those who don’t know and weren’t kind of aware of that time. So that was during the pandemic, obviously, and lockdown and all that. Well, a lot of companies, or while a lot of companies, were having slow time downtime, like not business was slow, things were kind of like, what’s going to happen? Chewy was the opposite, right? It was just exploding because they were like, they’re like, the Amazon for pet supplies and pet food and pet toys and all that. And so people were home, stuck at home. What did they do? They got pets, and they wanted to feed their pets and they wanted to get stuff for their pets. So, yeah, you guys were really in the thick of some crazy, crazy times that those couple
Molly Medvecky 4:19
years. Yeah, it was great company. Great time. So happy to have been part of that building time as well. But overall, my other than that, my my career spanned over 20 years at this point, across seven different industries, smattering of all of the orgs in between, from business development to HR, lot of marketing. And I was originally going to actually be a high school history teacher, and I was horrible at that, and so I left that pretty quickly. And really, administration is just where I’ve always been most comfortable. The past 15 years, I’ve largely. Been in leadership and executive support about 10 years of board experience and then some earning stuff. So it’s been everything is just kind of built consistently upon, you know, every every role and my skill set, I did end up going back to school to get a business degree. Finally, the concentration was in innovation and entrepreneurship, which just opened up a ton of things. I don’t necessarily think everybody has to go get a business degree, but it was huge for me, and just everything has really opened up a lot since then. I do love being an admin. Some people have heard me say this before, but I liken our world to having courtside seats at the final game of the final four arms reach the biggest and the best talent, the pace, you know, the turnovers, everything is, you know, happening all at once, and the energy is just crazy so and just kind of sitting there and knowing that, you Know, I contributed to something, whether it was feeding or logistics or maybe even I recommended a play, who knows, right? So I just, I love our industry, and that’s just kind of what brings us all together here today.
Jeremy Burrows 6:13
Yeah, totally. What was the How did, how did you first get into, like, the assistant role?
Molly Medvecky 6:20
Oh, I had to pay the bills after being a failed teacher, epically failed, and I took a job as a receptionist a brokerage firm in South Florida, in Boca Raton, and just never left here. I am
Jeremy Burrows 6:35
awesome. Yeah, good deal. Well, the, we’re going to talk a little bit about the or a lot about the Enneagram and what that is, and specifically how it’s relevant for us executive assistants. But first, what’s kind of throughout your career, and you’ve led teams of EAs, you’ve obviously been an EA so what’s maybe the one thing that that you want to share with those assistants listening who maybe they’re early in their career, maybe they’re finally seeing it as a career and as something that they could do long term, or maybe even they’re thinking, I want to level up And I want to lead a team of assistants someday. And what’s, what’s some, just general executive assistant advice that you’d like to share for for those listening, since you have had it such a great career,
Molly Medvecky 7:33
sure, first, first and foremost, which is huge to me, is which I did a lot of early on in my career, it was tying my self worth to execution, and once I got through that, I was just free from a lot of kind of the mental, emotional stuff that was holding me back. Always set clear boundaries. Learn that early I mean, I felt, I believed, in my 20s and my 30s that I had to do the on call 24/7 and I’m doing all kinds of crazy stuff, and that just, you know, wouldn’t fly now. I mean, the 90s were also kind of wild, dating myself here, so it was a little bit different environment. But at the same time, it still rings true. Just, you know, get your boundaries together soon, and your negotiables and non negotiables with what you’re willing to do. Because it doesn’t even matter. People say we’re like family or whatever, everybody will exploit it, you know, if given the opportunity, which is, I think it’s just human nature. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. And, yeah, I just think it’s a human thing. So I guess this would be my tidbits of advice.
Jeremy Burrows 8:45
Love it, love it, yeah. So detach your worth from your work and set boundaries. Yes. Love it. Great, great. Well, tell us, okay, what? First of all, why did you decide to get into the whole Enneagram coaching certification stuff and then and then even create a program for assistance,
Molly Medvecky 9:11
sure. So my Enneagram journey is actually directly tied to being an executive assistant I was told early on in my career to always read and consume everything that my leader was just to you know, it gives anticipation, alignment, builds trust, all of those good things. So I did all of my career. Then flash forward to 2012 I was working at a company called Strategic Profits. The CEO rich Scheffer, and he’s an incredibly intelligent man. And when I say that he consumes content for every meal and snack of the day is an understatement. And one of my actual physical responsibilities is he would leave books on my desk, and I would have to unbind them, basically break books, which, oh, I can’t handle. That so against me, cut them up and then scan them, and then I would send them to a transcriptionist. This was obviously before all of our AI goodness. And she would send them back. She would redact everything and condense it all just to his highlights, so that I would get Book Notes back, and then I would categorize them and keep them for his reference. So I mean, every day there was like three books on my desk, and on Mondays, it was nuts. It’s 20 books on my desk. It’s take all day. It was a wild process. So of course, I got to read it all, and lo and behold, he had read something on the Enneagram. I could not tell you the name of the book, or which one it was, but I read those notes and I was like, Oh, I gotta, you know? I was like, Oh, I’m, like, dialing my computer. I’m gonna take a test right now and figure out my type. This is, you know, I just, it really spoke to me. It was different than any other personality kind of typing stuff I’ve done before. I’ve always been somebody who enjoys and finds value in things like Myers Briggs and cliftonstrengths and disc I mean, I think that they’re all really valuable. But this was just different, and it really worked for me. So I just became a dub out student, and I did workshops of my own, and webinars and blogs, you know, all of the things, just to consume that information. And then when I was in between roles, in between chewy and Zapier, I actually took that, you know, kind of downtime opportunity to get certified as a coach, because since 2012 anybody that I’ve mentored or coached, I was always say, Hey, can you take this Enneagram test so that we can get further faster? And I would say, people that I’ve worked with who do take it, we, you know, ramp 30% faster, just because I can better understand them more quickly and adapt my communication and my strategies to support them in our work together. So it just became kind of a tipping point where I was like, I want to combine my two loves, all things admin and Enneagram. And here we have EA Enneagram. So
Jeremy Burrows 12:20
nice. Journey, cool. So we’re not going to go super into like all the different types and styles. It’s a little it’s a little much for a podcast, but it’s also, at least for me, someone who’s visual, it’s very helpful to visually see the chart and see how everything kind of ties together. But for those listening that do know about it and that do know their their style or their type or whatever, what? What’s your type? What’s your number? I
Molly Medvecky 12:52
can’t remember. I’m a six. Okay, so and most common circles, I guess the label would be a loyalist or a skeptic. So I’m, I’m the six. What are you do? You
Jeremy Burrows 13:02
know, you know what i It’s been so long since I’ve done it. I honestly can’t remember. I want to say, I want to say, like, a five with a two or something. I can’t remember. I’d have to look it up. I have my results somewhere. But it’s been, it’s been sometime. What? What do you think you know in your experience working with executives? What’s maybe the most common number you know, generally speaking, for executives like C suite?
Molly Medvecky 13:32
Well, I actually have not ever had a leader who took the test, and I am very against typing people without knowing. So the so the Enneagram, just for context, is, it’s a, actually, I think I should probably give a little
Jeremy Burrows 13:49
context. Yeah, no, let’s go Yeah. I kind of skipped what is an Enneagram?
Molly Medvecky 13:53
Yeah, the Enneagram just, let’s really quickly backtrack on that, and that’ll come kind of clear why I’m saying this. So the Enneagram is a personality system that outlines nine distinct types offering unique it’s like a lens or perspective, basically, and understanding yourself based on motivations and fears. So those are your internal core motivations and fears. So it’s different, and sets that apart from Myers, Briggs or disc or Strength Finders, those all will tell you what you do, whereas the Enneagram will tell you why you do it. So that’s, that’s the bottom line distinction there, and because it’s using, you know, more motivations, core motivations, you cannot see behaviors, the what you can see. So every leader, you could see a lot of what gotcha, but you could never know really what is driving that. I have been told I was actually mistyped early on as a one, because we show up very. Similarly. And it turns out I was six because of my motivations, so look the same, so you just err on the side of caution there. I
Jeremy Burrows 15:10
mean, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense,
Molly Medvecky 15:12
yeah, there’s a lot of similarities. I mean, all of my leaders have always been, you know, very smart people. They are big visionaries, you know, they have this, you know, it’s insatiable questioning of and what about this, and what about that? Just that consistent, you know, go further, take it further. Mentality and retention, I would say, too is huge,
Jeremy Burrows 15:39
yeah, and I remember, I do remember that now, and I was pulled up my results to try to refresh my memory, but I do remember that being like, you know, some of those other tests you can kind of tell, like, you can kind of identify someone and tag them, because you’re like, oh, okay, this is, you know, it’s got, like, disc or or Myers Briggs or whatever. They’re probably this, this, this, but, yeah, this one was a little more like even some. Some people have a hard time tagging themselves until they go through the actual test. So this, this says that mine is, it says five with minus sign next to it. See five, and then I think, I think I scored highest on the five, and then under the resourceful characteristic score, I scored highest on the six. Does that make
Molly Medvecky 16:31
sense? Okay, so you’re, you, you’re, it’s that, to me, says that you’re a dominant five with probably a six, a very strong six
Jeremy Burrows 16:40
wing. That’s what, yeah, that’s what it was, yeah, because this non resourceful characteristic score was a 90 on the five.
Molly Medvecky 16:48
Yeah. I think that’s pretty safe to say.
Jeremy Burrows 16:53
So, yeah. So which it, you know, the the label that this one had was for the five is the wise person, which, of course, I’m wise, right? So, you know,
Molly Medvecky 17:04
often called investigator. There are a lot of different names and titles and labels you find with the Enneagram to help kind of understand them. I personally try to shy away from that, because I think anchoring bias can really get in the way I at least it does for me personally. So I do, I guess more
Jeremy Burrows 17:26
You mean, like labeling the number. Well, yes, so like
Molly Medvecky 17:30
so a six often called a loyalist, right? So that automatically anchors me as somebody who’s very loyal, which I am, but my underlying motivation is fear based, and it’s I’m constantly trying to construct security and processes for myself and those around me to keep everybody safe. So it’s really interesting dynamic. And I just, I don’t, I don’t like using labels that much, I guess. And again, like, you don’t want to anchor somebody to be like, Oh, just because they this, you’re this number, you’re this. So ones are often called the perfectionist. Do you think those people really like being labeled a perfectionist? Like, right? I think it just anchors people.
Jeremy Burrows 18:13
That’s That’s really interesting, though, because, you know, I knew there were different, you know, networks or organizations that administer the tests and all that, because, like this one, the number one says the good person, the number six says the loyal person, the number five is the wise person, you know. So it’s interesting that I didn’t realize that there were different, you know, organizations or whatever, that labeled them a little bit differently. So that’s,
Molly Medvecky 18:41
yeah, and I think that that just because, you know, that’s them trying to be a little bit different and maybe nuanced, like jam. But again, I just try to shy away from this, because I don’t want anybody to ever, I wouldn’t want to be labeled like that. So, right.
Jeremy Burrows 18:56
No, it makes sense. Cool. Well, okay, so now we kind of have a little bit of background on what it is, what’s the, what’s the main, we already talked about, kind of the difference to like between Myers Briggs and the disc. But what is the, maybe, what’s your selling point for how it applies to assistance, right? And how does your program, the EA Enneagram, how does it apply to assistance? How does it help assistance? What’s kind of the your your take on it? If that makes sense, absolutely.
Molly Medvecky 19:32
Well. The administrative profession, admins in general, I think our we are so uniquely positioned in proximity to leadership and the decision makers and entire teams, right so to have empathy awareness and work with intention and really develop. Of our EQ is critical. I’d say tools can be taught, but EQ, you know, self regulation, motivation, empathy, those things, they have to be grown and developed and nurtured. So this is an excellent way to move that forward, when you can really understand what you’re motivate, what you’re motivated by, and then hopefully what other people are motivated by around you. I mean, we don’t just juggle tasks, and we’re managing people. We can’t afford to be, you know, like on autopilot, and we actually already toggle between multiple personalities a day. If you really think about what we do, we probably talk and have to shift between five different personality types every day, and right there. Just makes us incredible at incredibly agile. And navigating those personalities is just, it’s it should be at the forefront. And because I feel, guess, although, I will say caveat, although in the past 10 years, there’s been a huge change in supporting Administrative Professionals, and we are getting a lot more tools and acknowledgement and all of that good stuff, I still think that there’s a huge disconnect between the expectation and the support that we get, especially when it comes to more internal Sure, they’ll be like, Oh, you want to take a Microsoft training, awesome, let’s go. Or you want to learn how to use this product or this tool. But I don’t, I have not experienced a ton of kind of interpersonal, emotional, mental development for our population. I guess I think we’re a little bit underserved in that way.
Jeremy Burrows 21:54
Yeah, that makes sense. So how does your what’s the structure of your program? Then, is it like, kind of like an online course. Is it kind of like a cohort or a coaching thing? What’s, what’s, is it everything, all the above? Yep, so
Molly Medvecky 22:07
I do, I do one on one coaching, and I can do customized team, Team cohorts as well. The most recent thing that I am launching is a new cohort. It’ll be coming out sooner than later. I have not officially released it yet, but it’s a five week program, 90 minutes each week, where we get together online, obviously, and there is a curriculum, there’s a workbook that we follow, and it takes you through, you know, finding your number, getting through that process, working through if you’ve been mistyped or anything, and then the basic education about the different layers of the Enneagram. Because, again, I don’t want to go too much into it and confuse people right now and be like, oh, there’s wings and there’s this, but there’s so many different layers to it that can go really deep. And that’s what we do for five weeks, again with the workbook. But what’s really cool about it, and what my really what I’m really excited about, actually, is making sure that I’ve got a good mix of numbers so that we can actually really play things out, right? So really do situational unpacking. I could give you an example, okay, somebody slaps a rogue meeting on the calendar, right? And this is something that happens to all of us all the time. And number one is going to freak out and be like, Oh, they’ve ruined everything. And how could they do this? And it’s going to derail them a bit it’s just their that’s their default, unless they’re aware of it, right? And they probably are going to have a chip on their shoulder the rest of the day and be a little bit irritated, right? Whereas a seven totally opposite is going to be like, Oh, sweet. What’s this about? Oh, it’s a surprise, something unexpected. They’re very enthusiastic, and they’re ready for surprises, and they’re going to join that call like, Hey, what’s going on? Are we all getting raises? And, you know, just, they’re wonderful people. But then again, a five is going to say, hmm, I did not have time to prepare for this. I need to get more information, and I’m feeling uneasy, and they probably show up to the call, and they’ll be a little bit shut down and maybe not participate, because they really didn’t feel like they had time to prepare huge information gathers. And that’s, that’s how they create their own security. So one situation, three completely different, you know, internal reactions that show up very differently. And it just if you can understand them about yourself and that those other ways exist, I just think that that’s invaluable. I mean, I know what I learned about Well, being a six, I can be a little bit of a negative Nancy. I. And, you know, part of always trying to set up systems for safety and security, it’s, what about this? What about that? What about this? So if somebody’s really excited and they’re passionate about something, they’re telling me, but then I go straight to, what about this, what about that? You know, they feel this small. And it’s, it’s me knowing, if you could really hear me saying, I really love you, I’m scared for you. I don’t want you to fail like, that’s what I’m saying, doesn’t come out that way. So it’s, it’s, you know, how, how I can self regulate that and be supportive and excited for that person without, you know, ruining their day, or they’re killing their dream. So,
Jeremy Burrows 25:44
yeah, well, and that’s what I was going to ask, is, you know, there’s, there’s the step one of, like going through the the assessment and trying to figure out what style you are and all that, what motivates you, how you might, like you said, react to certain scenarios. But then the next level, similarly to these other assessments and Strength Finders and Myers, Briggs and all that, but the next level is to try to understand how the other types might interact with you, or how you might interact with them and right and then kind of that’s like another layer to uncover,
Molly Medvecky 26:21
and that’s what I really want to get to with EA Enneagram is having a really engaged group that wants to know their type well enough so that they can say, oh my gosh, okay, you’re a six, and you’re always coming at me like this. How should I respond to you? And just really have open, you know, kind of practice, yeah, activities with it. The other piece of EA Enneagram that I think is going to be very impactful is that once you finish, you can show up once a month, I’m going to have what’s called a learning lab. And let’s say you want to practice some more and work on your implementation and your delivery. You let me know ahead of time if you want to do something specifically with a number. So say you suspect your boss, you suspect again, that your boss may be a two, and you say, Molly, like, you know, I keep coming up against this. I think they might be a two. Can we make sure we practice? I’ll make sure that there’s a two on that call that we can role play and go through it and try to kind of maybe come up with a plan that’s the ongoing support piece of it that I think is going to be pretty cool, especially when people are really wanting to get a little bit deeper into it and try some things on.
Jeremy Burrows 27:34
Love it. Yeah, that. I mean, it’s such a and I remember again, it’s been a while since I really dug into it, but when I did, I was like, Man, this is man, this is such a helpful you know, emotional intelligence, you know, development, social development, communication development, helps you kind of realize how to how to better communicate with your kids, your your Friends, your partner, your spouse, you know, like and, of course, your colleagues and your boss. So
Molly Medvecky 28:05
my husband is a nine, which is typically called, stereotypically the peacekeeper. So he’s really chill, really mellow, and he’s just a wonderful person. So you got me the six, who’s like, filing out on anxiety and everything. But what’s interesting is, when a nine is in a moment of stress, they actually take on six attributes and characteristics. And I remember one time this is what really clicked for us as a couple. He was saying something about we have to do this, we have to do that. And I was like, Oh, babe, wow, you’re totally six and out right now stopped, and he looked at me and was like, he like, hit him. He’s like, this is how you feel all the time. And I was like, Yes, you are in my skin right now all the time. He was like, I could not live like this. And I’m like, Hey, welcome to the circus. Wow. Yeah, so it’s all kind of stuff. I mean, you have a leader that’s willing to do it, and you can have those types of conversations. Oh my gosh. That would be insane. It’s so amazing,
Jeremy Burrows 29:10
awesome. That would be cool. Cool. Molly, well, this is great, super interesting stuff. I’m so glad that you put this together. My my brother actually got certified as an Enneagram coach a while back, and he was looking into doing some stuff, and I was, I was kind of early stages thinking, oh, you know what? We should do something for assistance. And so I’m glad that you took this on and ran with it so that I don’t have to, because I do think it’s valuable, and I do think it’s a it’s a hole that needs to be filled, and you’re the perfect person to do it. So where’s the best place for people to learn more about EA Enneagram and and reach out and connect with you? Sure
Molly Medvecky 29:50
eaenneagram.com is the website you can reach out through there, or you can hit me up on LinkedIn, DMS, all the good stuff. Off pretty accessible, so try to reach out and respond within 24 hours of anybody who contacts me. So
Jeremy Burrows 30:07
great, great. Well, we’ll put both those links in the show notes at leaderassistant.com/346, again. leaderassistant.com/346, to connect with Molly and learn more about the A Enneagram Molly, thank you so much for taking your time and being on the show, and I’m excited to let you get back to your homestead and hear, hear what kind of animals or or, you know, farm equipment you’re gonna get into next
Molly Medvecky 30:41
I got a new John Deere tractor. Didn’t Oh, I was not on track for this in my life, but now I have a tractor.
Jeremy Burrows 30:47
There you go. Awesome. Well, thanks again for being on the show, and thanks everyone for listening. And yeah, be sure to reach out and say hi to Molly online. Awesome. Thank you.
