Dimitra Zographos is a passionate advocate for the EA profession, appreciating the difference, value and influence it can bring to an executive, executive team and an entire organization.
In this episode, Dimitra discusses leaving a legacy, the power of assistant networking, and more!
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One of the most inspirational and empowering award winning Senior Executive Assistants with exceptional insights, skills and experience. Dimitra is passionate and a true advocate for the EA profession, appreciating the difference, value and influence it can bring to an executive, executive team and an entire organization. She truly understands what it takes to be an exceptional executive assistant.
Through her extensive experience, she challenges, assists, guides and inspires EAs to take their career to the next level and to reach their full potential. She recognizes how important it is for EAs to develop their thought leadership, grow and focus on their professional development to ensure their continued success.
Given Dimitra’s passion and commitment to make a difference, inspiring EA’s to progress, she has joined The EA Circle as Executive Manager to grow, expand and specifically focus on providing a truly exclusive forum for Executive Assistants to exceed their perceived potential. The bonds formed as members of The EA Circle last for years opening unimaginable doors to incredible rewarding opportunities.
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Dimitra Zographos 0:00
Hello I’m Dimitra and today’s leadership quote comes from Eleanor Roosevelt. A good leader inspires people to have confidence in the leader, a great leader inspires people to have confidence in themselves.
Podcast Intro 0:20
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Jeremy Burrows 0:30
Thank you so much for listening all I’m old and used to host my data. Hey, friends, thanks for tuning in. And I hope you’re having a good week. It’s episode 99. On you’re almost to Episode 100, which is really exciting. Thanks so much for your support for your reviews, your apple podcasts ratings, thanks for your support about my book and purchasing the audiobook and the paperback and the Kindle version and leaving an Amazon review. And thanks for joining us on our weekly zoom chats in our Slack community in our Facebook group in our premium membership, if you’re new to the podcast, and you’re wondering what all that’s about, check out leaderassistant.com/community Leaderassistant.com/community. And join us in our free groups in our paid membership or at one of our events. Take care and enjoy this episode. Oh yeah. And as a disclaimer, it’s 1am on a Saturday morning, and that’s why my voice sounds sleepy. Hey, everyone. Thanks for tuning into The Leader Assistant Podcast. It’s your host, Jeremy Burrows. And today I’m speaking with Dimitra Zographos. Dimitra how’s it going?
Dimitra Zographos 1:52
Wonderful. Jeremy, down here, Melbourne, Australia. Well, thank you so much. For the opportunity to join you today, Jeremy. And I’d like to congratulate you for the outstanding clear assistant book that you recently published. Outstanding. And I cannot thank you enough on behalf of every EAA in the world for being such a great advocate for a profession that still is undervalued. But yet so valuable in the success of every organization. So congratulations, and I wish you continued success.
Jeremy Burrows 2:30
Thank you, Dimitri. I really appreciate it. It’s been a wild ride, and just very, very exciting to have it out. And actually, it’s funny, you mentioned that because just before hopping on our call, I literally got an just got an email that said that my audio book has been approved in is just just released on Audible. And so well done. I’m very, very excited to get the audio book out, too. It’s been a couple of months waiting for that to get approved. So thank you.
Dimitra Zographos 3:02
How long was this journey, Jeremy? In terms of thinking about what you wanted to write about? You wanted to do a book and then off you went? Cup two or three years?
Jeremy Burrows 3:11
Yeah, I mean, okay. Yeah, I’ve been writing for four years, or more than four years. And then I’ve been kind of patted on the back of my mind and had some notes and tried to you know, just keep keep it a top of mind. But then, as far as just getting down to it, it probably was more like a you know, from getting the outline locked in and then just starting to crank on it. It was probably, I don’t know, four months, six months.
Dimitra Zographos 3:43
Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah, right.
Jeremy Burrows 3:47
Right. Figured it out. Get done things that quickly. Well done. Thank you. Well done. Well, let’s, yeah, let’s just jump right in what uh, tell us a little bit about your experience, your career and you know, you’re in EA, are you currently in EA? Or, you know, how long have you been in EA, all that kind of fun stuff. And we’ll we’ll get right into it.
Dimitra Zographos 4:11
Thank you, Jeremy. Very excited to be sharing a little bit about my journey because that’s, that’s the best way we learn from from each other. For me, back in 94 Crown, the Crown entertainment complex was going to they won the bid to actually build a casino and an entertainment facilities. So I joined crown in 90 Back in 94 as the accounts payable supervisor, to set up systems and procedures and policies, and I was one of the very first employees. So being involved in a project that big was was a phenomenal experience. But what I didn’t know that that that year 94 was actually going to change my life forever. And the EAA roll title had just come in In, you know executive assistant had just come to had just hit the market in 94. And our chief operating officer six months into my accounts payable role. He said, You know Demitra his name, a beautiful man called Nigel Morrison said, I’d like you to work for me. And I said, all I do, you know, do through through finance. He goes, No, no, I actually want you to be my EA and I kid you not? Jeremy, I actually had a little chuckle. And I said, Nigel, you know, I can’t type. You know, I just I’ve got a finance background. And I’ll never forget his words. He said, he said to me, Jeremy Dimitra. Anyone can talk, that you have what it takes to multi skill at the top. And again, going back to that, quote, Great Leaders Inspire you, great leaders take you on their journey. And just quickly, why me is the important thing here. Why did he choose me with no C suite experience? And I guess, these values, these traits, these behaviors was fundamental in the incredible successful journey I’ve had as an EA, and I’ve helped others do the same. So for me, I’ve always had the, you know, the thirst to understand what keeps you up at night? What keeps a CEO up at night? What Keeps Leaders Up at Night? have curiosity, which is exactly what I demonstrated a crown, ask questions, got involved in the business and got to speak to everybody in the business? How could I help? How can I fill the gaps? I wasn’t afraid to ask questions, I guess showed leadership showed empathy, and made everybody matter, everybody, I cared for every person that I met, and I guess, showing such behaviors and strong work ethic and values early on, I was developing my personal brand without even realizing it. And we went to achieve some amazing, amazing things together. So that hasn’t changed. Jeremy, that has not changed in it doesn’t matter. 2030 years down the track. If anything, the role is now more strategic than ever. So demonstrating those behaviors, being your true authentic self, putting your hand up using your voice understanding the business is critical. Absolutely critical. So yeah, that was the beginning of an incredible journey, that that I you know, went on to do other things when things changed. And moved into a couple of other organizations where again, I left my, my legacy and my my, I guess, made some some great success stories
Jeremy Burrows 7:47
from that point, throughout your career, and then to the EAA circle, which we’ll talk a little bit more about the EAA circle, but I’d love to just kind of hear how that came to be. what your role is now, kind of where are you now? That kind of uh,
Dimitra Zographos 8:02
sure, sure. Jeremy. Once I moved on from Crown Jeremy, I had a couple of other corporate roles. But I eventually ended up two years after that, sorry, four years later, after that, at a global urs comm called URS, a global engineering company, which was taken over by air come. And when I arrived, at URS, I thought, wow, I could do this job with my eyes shut. It’s, you know, it’s a bit slow pace that I’m used to. What am I going to do? Do I go back into an environment where it’s Go, go, go, go, go. Because if I’m going to be away from my children, I have two beautiful children. By the way, they’re young adults now. My son’s 22 of my daughter’s 20. But at the time, I’ve always worked full time and to be a full time mum. And to have a career is not easy. But you can do it if you take your children on a journey. And that was the thing. And this is what has also gravitated to so many people on the journey that I’ve met, especially full time working mothers like me. If I was gonna give up my time away from home, to work full time, it was really important. I made a conscious decision that I was not going to bring home just money. I was actually going to bring home an experience to share with my children and hopefully leave a legacy. And then this whole new world opened up. I thought, okay, I can add strategic value in this business. I’ve set up new systems. What am I going to do more to make every moment count and the most amazing, amazing experience happens. Another life changing experience. I thought I speak it. Through this journey. I had time to develop more as a person. So I started public speaking because I wanted to make a difference to other EAS who were coming through the ranks. I started mentor I became an Ambassador for the business, this is all me, I truly believe you create your own opportunities. If what you do take seriously, I’ve always reflected how do people see me? Am I making the difference that I want to make? And I thought, well, I’m speaking at conferences or networking, I’m speaking at events, I’m mentoring, what’s there for me in this country that I could grow and become more of a thought leader. And I found the circle. So for me, I was looking for an environment where I could come together in a confidential environment where I could learn and leverage from other professional like minded AI is, but I’ll talk to you about ASR a little bit later. But for my journey, through the AI circle, I found my voice. So this beautiful man, John Paragon has, who is now my boss, but he’s one of the most inspirational thought leaders I’ve ever met. And when you bought the CEO circle 1012 years ago, he felt it’s just as lonely at the top as it is for the EAS as it is for the CEO. So he started the EI circle. And that journey for me helped me articulate more who I was as an EA, through learning and the people around me, but I’ll quickly go back to that as we move into the EA circle. But my time at urs was phenomenal. So through my thought leadership, and the development of my strategic thinking, I was now opening doors for the business, which is what I call a engagement. I’ll give you an example. And we have the power is EAS to do that. We have an incredible network, our bosses don’t. But collectively, all our network, we can make things happen. So one of my executives when I was at URS, we were bidding for a for a job, but he was having a very challenging afternoon and had forgotten that maybe just maybe someone in my network could could potentially you we could organize an appointment with a specific minister that he needed to see. So I asked what was the problem? And he said we’d like him an appointment with such and such a minister, and we just can’t make it happen. Well, within 10 minutes, I was on the phone, and we actually made that happen. So I guess my point and we did win the job. But I guess my point here is think outside the square, half a mind Network is an AI add value to the business, add value to my executive add value to the leadership team. Wow, you do things like that, as you know Jeromy. Any executive would put your right hand person to them. Do you understand what I’m saying? Yeah. where I’m coming from?
Jeremy Burrows 12:44
Oh, yeah, I think that there’s often times where our executives might need something or need to connect with somebody. And yeah, we can reach out to if we’ve invested in our own network, then we can connect with other EAS and, you know, make stuff happen.
Dimitra Zographos 13:04
It’s it’s underestimated. And just when we’re just talking on that whole piece, just briefly, Jeremy in terms of the networking piece, it’s so important to be able to utilize your networks appropriately to the benefit of everyone. I remember when I went to Western Union, when I moved on from urs when they were taken over by another company and I my role was made redundant. This is the role just before the ER circle, another wonderful executive Simon Glendenning. When I arrived on the first day we had lunch with with Simon. And these are the questions I asked. Now imagine, imagine he’s sitting there thinking, wow, it’s very powerful. I said, Simon, what keeps you up at night? What are your goals? You know, for the next three to five years? What are your priorities and your KPIs? Because if I understand that, I can help him achieve that. Just the look on his face was priceless. And not that Simon acknowledged me in my role as an AI from day one. So he positioned me and my role to be recognized and valued within the business, empowering me to add even more value and to make a difference. And from that, I also went along and I actually did the same with all of Simon’s direct reports. Because I felt if I understood what their priorities were, then I’d be able to actually bring it all together. Like John my boss says, we connect the dots. We piece things together and we make things happen. And just just on the word of networking, John wrote a beautiful book called Why I wrote this book for greater success and one of the things he talks about is the art of Connect Ting, and connecting, he talks about his actually interacting with people. So, you know, it is an essential part of us to grow and learn. However, it’s so important that in doing so we strive to stay true to ourselves. And we build meaningful, beneficial relationships, because I think that’s what’s powerful when you do pick up that phone, or when you need to have something that you need to follow through through for your executive. So a lot of wonderful stuff, I guess, in particular, with Western Union, Jeremy, it was a much younger environment that I’d ever worked in. And I had to adjust my thinking and how I was going to add value in a different way. And again, as EA is I think, being adaptable is it has given but the key again to the success of our role is getting involved in the business and understanding from the business. And from Western Union, I moved on to the to the year circle, which I can talk a little bit about if there’s nothing else you wanted to ask me in relation just to some of those key learnings from my journey. Yeah, I
Jeremy Burrows 16:17
would love to hear maybe this is kind of could be a good segue to the EAA circle. But talk a little bit about how you’ve sought out developing your skills in growing your, your, you know, professional development, and then how that ties in with what the EA circle does. With
Dimitra Zographos 16:40
with the professional development in terms of the district, there’s two sides to this. One of it is all the soft skills, the upskilling always staying relevant with what’s what’s out there. And that’s doing, you know, I guess now with the internet, you can learn anything. But the key thing is, yes, you can go off and do courses. And I didn’t do a lot of that on the journey, because I tend to have learned a lot of things on the job and through other people. But the key is surrounding yourself with people who believe in you, and also sharing best practice, what are others doing in what are other C’s radios doing in their world, in their everyday environment that you can learn and leverage. And this is where, for me, it became really powerful with the AI circle. But you know, because it is all around thought leadership, and that sharing of insights, ideas with professional pure peers, you know, with the view of, you know, towards collaborative problem solving, having a sounding board, having an independent chair who chaired our forums and our meetings for me as a member, I just blossomed. And I kept up to date with the network that I had created within the AI circle. And then from there built from the people I was meeting through that forum. Because we you know, there’s people we’ve become long lifetime friends also. So staying relevant, is really important by connecting with other professionals, and also keeping tabs of what’s happening in particular with technology these days, because that’s an important part of our work. But the real crux of it is insights, problem solving, thought leadership, and that is the people we surround ourselves that is really powerful to give us that shared knowledge and wisdom, which is priceless.
Jeremy Burrows 18:41
Yeah, I love how you said the people around us. It’s such a, there’s so much we can learn from the executives, we work with the VPS the directors, on our team and, you know, clients and potential customers and investors, we can learn so much just from the people that we interact with day in and day out. So that’s a great, great point.
Dimitra Zographos 19:03
But curiosity, I think is really important. Jeremy, you know, it is a great profession. And it’s, it’s, I really encourage TAs to, you know, really think deeper, you know, what does this role mean for them? Are they in the right role? Are they working for the right? VP, co executive, to the values of the business? You know, I absolutely adore John, and everything he stands for, and I’ve been pretty lucky with my executives. It’s not always been like that it has been most of the time. That if those values don’t align, if we don’t speak the same language, if we don’t feel the same way about people, it’s not worth that you will never grow and blossom in an environment that your values aren’t aligned. You can’t be your true authentic self. Because that’s when you can perform your best. Back As with being in that right environment, gives you purpose and passion, which ultimately makes a difference. And what you said before learning also from executives, that’s, that’s one of the Golden things that I also find within our circle. Our chairs, who chair our meetings, have that knowledge, because they are they are a CEO, or a board member, you know, to have that, yes, a dedicated Foods Resource, you know, of that level of CEO. Intellect, as you know, is gold. And it’s not something we can easily get from that executives because they are busy. Yeah,
Jeremy Burrows 20:42
yeah. This is true, this is true. Well tell us a little bit about the EAA circle and what what it is, and even just how we can find out more about it, or who’s it for and all that fun stuff
Dimitra Zographos 20:57
that’s for the way it works is how I described in terms of our meetings with, you know, groups of yeas, who come together with no conflicts of interest around the table. And the meetings that each group tends to come together with six half days a year chaired by an independent chair. And there’s various topics that we table from, you know, what, what’s top of mind to also what is topical, for example, I noticed one of your workshops that are coming up, you know, is around COVID-19? And how do you negotiate salary, you know, at the moment with so much going on. So whatever obstacle for our EAS, the group decides what it is that they want to talk about from one meeting meeting to the next. But it’s that shared knowledge and experience that is really powerful. And the opportunities that come out of that. Or will do so Jeremy just from you know, obviously, you know, all our people in Australia, but yes, but yes, we do connect with people overseas within our network just to stay in touch. But anything that stands out for you, for me at the moment, I think what’s really critical is that we stay even more relevant remotely than ever before, by staying even more connected with the business. Would you agree from what you’re seeing from your side of the world?
Jeremy Burrows 22:18
Yeah, I agree. I mean, it’s, it’s so critical to, we have to be more intentional about it now that a lot of us are working remote. And there, you know, we may still be remote for quite a while. I think it’s just we have to be more intentional about reaching out to other executives, team members, departments, checking in sitting in on on video calls, joining the chat thread group, for that department, and just trying to be more aware of what’s going on in the organization. So that you can keep that keep a finger on the pulse, even while we’re disconnected. Not in maybe not physically in an office. But thankfully, we can use the technology and stay connected in that way. But I do think it requires a little bit more intentionality, because you’re not going into the break room to grab your lunch, you’re not going to the watercooler you’re not grabbing coffee in the break room. So yeah, I think it’s more just a little bit more
Dimitra Zographos 23:24
intentional, just to be more intentional, mostly. And the same goes with in the last couple of weeks, areas have been talking around, you know, they’re inviting themselves to meetings. Obviously, before the meeting, they don’t just rock up for virtually. But even more so are getting involved in the business to stay even more connected and finding even more ways how to add even more value. Because there will be areas within this, our skills could be used. And that normally you have the time to be able to give when you’re in the office working full on what you’re doing with your executive. So that’s another great way people will not executives will not forget those people during this time that have stood up and have gone above and beyond. Yeah, and I think we have the power in our roles to be able to to be able to do that. Yeah, you know, and I’m very happy to answer some of the other questions that we could because we’ve talked quite a bit about the journey, Jeremy and of course my you know, the circle and what we do, but happy to also just talk a little bit more about some of the other questions that you asked me to think about. If there’s any of those you’d like me to just to elaborate on.
Jeremy Burrows 24:48
Yeah, actually one one question I like to ask is if you could snap your fingers and instantly give all assistance more of something, what would it be?
Dimitra Zographos 25:00
have the opportunity to use their voice, definitely the opportunity to step up and use their voice. Because every assist, stunt, every person has some of the tape. And I think we’re because we have to be the role is so much more sophisticated today than it has ever been. You know, the A’s have got so much to offer. So think about the business think of where you can add value. Again, I keep going back to that, but it’s so important, we have to be able to add value in order to stay relevant and to stay. People interested in us to give us that opportunity. So definitely, to think how you can be even more of a linchpin in your business.
Jeremy Burrows 25:57
Yeah, so what’s one example of something that an assistant listening can do to add value to their executive and company
Dimitra Zographos 26:10
MBAs I was talking to the other day, her executive has been appointed to you know, he’s taken on a more senior role. And, and she asked him, you know, let’s just say his name is John, John. You’ve picked up this new part of the business? Can we break it down? Can we have a look at? What are the thing is that you’ve now picked up and that what may? Well I have, you know, his new KPIs that parts of the business that we could break down that I could look at that is at the moment and come to some? And how are you, okay, if I go and ask some questions and use various parts of the business, because that could mean that we could improve processes. And that’s exactly what you did. And in this instance, it just so happened that people weren’t doing their training modules. And that’s the bane of a lot of EAs, you know, they have to make sure for example, the leadership team or whoever their teams are that they manage, make sure that each person does the compulsory training. And it just wasn’t happening. Great suggestion, why don’t we make it one of the KPIs of each person that in order for them, for example, to get their bonus, or whatever the incentive is that they have to complete on time, their training modules, that was actually implemented, and the business is saving 1000s of dollars in time. In that now being done? Seamless, slick. Yeah. Does that make sense?
Jeremy Burrows 27:50
Yeah. Yeah, it’s,
Dimitra Zographos 27:52
it’s amazing how took the time to just ask the questions. Yeah, I
Jeremy Burrows 27:56
was gonna say, it’s amazing how just asking the right question can lead to so much impact?
Dimitra Zographos 28:02
So she used to voice ask the questions got permission, is it okay, you know, just Trump around everywhere. Of course, she just, and also keeping your boss informed always in what you’re doing is just so important. Because then they have your back and you have their have had their back. But asking those questions, being curious, is so important. I’m sure there’s ways to you know, you could be seeing your boss Jeremy, do something a certain way and think no, actually, we could do this differently, or better, or someone within the business or your leadership team or anyone. And I’m always open to doing things better, I don’t know at all. And I love learning from other people. Because that’s how we can be the best version of ourselves.
Jeremy Burrows 28:44
But tell us about your biggest mistake, one of your biggest mistakes that you made as an assistant and what you learned from it.
Dimitra Zographos 28:52
Oh, yes, very early on at urs we were actually looking at purchasing a small business part of the bigger business. And the particular gentleman who owned the business, the CEO, you know, we’d got to know him really well. It was a lovely man. And I’m a very people’s person. So you know, always made extremely feel welcome and supportive and etc, and special and other. And I sent some documents to him that weren’t supposed to go to him. I was actually included yet. I sent some documents to him that I shouldn’t have said to him, those documents were actually supposed to go to our head office. And I press that same button, as I think all done. I’ve never done it again. Touchwood. And I went, Oh my god. Oh my god. And again, you know, I was so excited about this person and against slowing down. I should have slowed down and I didn’t. So I went into my boss and I did the best thing that I could have done. And I said you This is this is what just happened. And I’m sorry, but this is the truth. And if it means I lose my job over this, fair enough, I take responsibility with my actions and what I did. And he said to me, Dimitra, the fact that you’ve come in here and you’re bound up, and you’re honest, that speaks volumes, show me what you did. And I did. And he said, Look, if anything, it actually demonstrates if anything, it helped, what we were doing, because it showed the particular organization that we were interested in buying that were in their favor, we really liked them. It could have gone very differently. But the fact that I owned up was really important. That what my boss and I have been closer, because he could trust me, I guess even more, and I never, you know, before I send that send on bit slow these days, just to make sure. That never ever happens again. As I’m sure we’ve all done it right. Even recall isn’t isn’t sometimes quick enough? We’ve done something really, you know, sensitive information that’s gone out? Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
Jeremy Burrows 31:17
Well, what what makes an assistant a leader,
Dimitra Zographos 31:22
what makes an assistant a leader, I think it’s a combination of a combination of things. I think, I loved in your book, and this is what I wrote down because I couldn’t have said it better, Jeremy, and if you don’t mind, I’m going to push it because I love it. Leadership is an act of practice a discipline to take care of people around us. It is about strength, integrity, gratitude, fortitude, practice, empathy, and generosity. And I think, you know, that’s, that sums it all. So on top of that, to be able to think strategically in taking care of everyone, ensuring everyone is on track. And all those other things that are said to understanding the business, using your voice, having influence where you can, are all leadership skills. But it is a role for that image. And I think we shouldn’t be afraid to do all those things that I just described, in how you define it in your book. And make it make it the best role that you want for yourself. Because, again, you know, smile, if you can see my face, I’m smiling, because I’m so proud of this profession, in what we can do. And, you know, I’ve got a few in a male, EAA circle members, who are absolute superstars. And, you know, just seeing them take on a leadership role within their business is fantastic. So yeah, definitely. Strength, integrity, gratitude, fortitude, does demonstrate those behaviors we take for granted, I think, is great leadership skills to have and to use every day.
Jeremy Burrows 33:21
Yeah. Well, Dimitra, thank you so much for taking time out of your day. Any final words of wisdom for our listeners?
Dimitra Zographos 33:32
Thank you, Jeremy. I think, you know, just to, to, to wrap up, I think it’s important to just to sum up, you know, or is make, you know, make everyday count, in whatever you choose to do, because we’re only running on this in his life for a short time. And we can all leave our legacy. Every one of this, how do you want us? How do you want to be remembered, I think is really important. And I’d like to share just a couple of thoughts from John John’s book. Regarding legacy, because I think everything we do, and the journey that we’re on, hopefully will leave the world a slightly better place than than what we found it. And John talks about. A true test of whether we have succeeded in life is by the mark we leave on our family, friends and colleagues. And the decisions we make, the actions we take, will determine our mark and our legacy. So for him, he says, I know my why. And I know my authentic self. I live it every day. But I don’t know at all and I am forever learning, evolving and growing as a person. So I’m on a journey of discovery, honoring the past, excited about the future, and most importantly, focus Ston the here and now. So I’d love to leave you with because you’re doing everything you’re doing. You’re going to leave an incredible legacy, Jeremy, and we all met. So I hope, even if one thing people take away from what I’ve shared today is make every moment count, and make memories that will last a lifetime and leave impression for other people. Because what’s small for us now be significantly life changing for somebody else. So thank you so much for the opportunity to join you today. I wish you continued success.
Jeremy Burrows 35:35
Great, great way to wrap it up to make sure thank you so much. And we’ll we’ll post the links to who will post the links for your LinkedIn and the EA circle and how people can get a hold of you. In the show notes, thank you. And yeah, that hopefully people will reach out and say hi, and connect. And yeah, thanks again.
Dimitra Zographos 36:01
Happy to help anyone, even if people are in different parts of the world, because you know what? That’s how we learn. So happy to connect and learn and leverage from each other. Thank you.
Jeremy Burrows 36:11
Thanks again for listening. Check out the show notes at leaderassistant.com/99 That’s leaderassistant.com/99 talk to you soon.
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